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BfloFRED 10/30 Topics

Chris Van Patten wrote

Hi all -

So in addition to our set schedule for BfloFRED 2.0, I'm wondering what topics you'd like to discuss in our open forum (which will run the last 45-50 minutes of the evening).

Some things on my mind:

+ Webfonts for logos

+ Responding to A List Apart's article on responsive mockups, especially with the recent news about's redesign using 200 PSDs (whoa)

Any other ideas?

steve wasiura wrote

thanks Chris.

for anyone needing background, here is the article about's 200 PSDs

and here is aListApart article on RD mockups:

Chris Van Patten wrote

To cap off last night's BfloFRED discussion, here are relevant links:

Pre-processor presentation:


MAMP presentation:

Twitter Bootstrap


Also be sure to send in your thoughts about the next meetup over at this NextPlex thread:

Thanks all!

Charlie Wertz wrote

I have a couple quick thoughts about the discussion after the presentations.

A comment was made that using some of these tools makes people lazy. I noted that writing out html and css by hand reminds me of the assembler programming I used to love and I believe there should be a better way. Then someone said that Twitter bootstrap is really two guys at Twitter and someone else said that one of the guys has moved on. Is this true? This last thing leads to the thought that if you commit a major project to one of these tools, you are betting that it will continue to live and evolve. This could be a bigger issue than what sort of a site the tool creates.

steve wasiura wrote

I think Twitter bootstrap will continue, it has too much momentum at this point to die, 

Dennis Gaebel wrote

Twitter Bootstrap is not going anywhere, but there is still a valid concern that we must choose our tools wisely before stepping into the devils cave.

Efficiency is always good to help ease patterns of production and development, but when tools stop us from making our own choices and decisions that is where the true danger lies.